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Compact Macs

an email list for users of 68000-based black-and-white compact Macs

updated November 9, 1999

Compact Macs is a forum especially for users of 68000-based compact Macintosh computers. This specifically includes compact Macs: the original Macintosh (a.k.a. 128K), both Fat Macs (512K and 512Ke), the Plus, the SE, and the Classic. The goal is to build a tightly focused community supporting these closely related Macs, to become the best compact Mac resource on the internet.

Related Macs which are not considered off topic are the Mac Portable and PowerBook 100, both based on a 16 MHz 68000, and the SE/30 and Classic II, which run a 16 MHz 68030 in the same case as the SE and Classic, respectively.

Owners of other Macs, including the Color Classic and Color Classic II, are encouraged to join the Vintage Macs list.

WARNING: Users are advised that Microsoft Outlook Express comes equipped with a junk email (spam) filter which, when turned on, may relegate legitimate e-mails, such as electronic greeting cards from family or friends to the junk mail folder, and dispose of them according to the user's preferences.

From Microsoft

Microsoft is aware that Outlook Express 5 Macintosh Edition's Junk Mail Filter may identify as suspicious some email messages that a user may want to read. Microsoft is working closely with industry experts to improve the Junk Mail Filter to help people better separate wanted and unwanted messages. For example, we recently learned that the subscription-based TidBITS newsletter was identified as suspicious. To assure that any wanted email, such as the TidBITS newsletter, is not marked by the Junk Mail Filter, please use any one of the following quick and easy solutions:

1. Add the address of the mailing list to your Address Book
2. Add the domain name of the Sender (e.g., tidbits.com) to the exception list in the Junk Mail filter
3. Use the Mailing List Manager to create a Mailing List Rule for that Sender

1. How can I subscribe to Compact Macs?

There are two ways to receive Compact Macs: as individual messages or in digest mode. In digest mode, messages are collected by the list server and sent as part of one larger message once per day. This is less immediate than message mode, but also greatly reduces mailbox clutter.

Please be sure your return address is correct before subscribing -- the list server will use your return address as your subscription address.

• To subscribe, send email to <get-cmacs@reformed.net>.
• To switch to digest mode, follow the instructions in the footer of each posted message.

To help prevent spammers from using the list, and to keep others from subscribing your address without your approval, you will receive a note from the list server asking you to confirm your subscription. Simply reply as instructed and your subscription will be active.

Please report any subscription problems to <listmom@reformed.net>.

2. How can I get off Compact Macs?

Instructions for unsubscribing are in the footer of each posting. If those instructions don't work, contact <listmom@reformed.net>.

Please report any subscription problems the list mom at <listmom@reformed.net>.

3. What other commands are available?

See A Subscriber's Guide to Macjordomo for information on other available commands. Note that the review command is disabled to prevent spammers from downloading the addresses of subscribers.

4. Who sponsors Compact Macs?

Dan Knight of Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.net/> manages Compact Macs, which was begun on July 26, 1999.

5. Is Compact Macs only for users of 68000-based compact Macs?

While anyone may subscribe, this list will be most helpful to those using 68000-based compact b&w Macs. Although discussion may sometimes cover other 68000-based Macs (Portable, PowerBook 100) and 68030-based compact b&w Macs (SE/30, Classic II), the primary focus remains the 8 MHz 68000-based compact Mac with a 9" b&w screen.

6. How does an email list work?

Anyone who has access to internet email may subscribe to Compact Macs using the administrative mailing address for the list software <lists@reformed.net> with the appropriate command. Subscribers will receive a copy of every message sent to the posting address for the list <compactmacs@reformed.net>. If you wish to respond, post, or otherwise have your words sent to everyone on the list, send email, either, replying the message to which you are responding or sending a new one, to <compactmacs@reformed.net>.

The program that handles the list is set up so selecting "Reply" in your emailer will send a message to the the person who sent the original message, not to the entire list. If you wish to respond to the list, be sure to address your message to <compactmacs@reformed.net>. There should be no need to copy messages to both the author and the list, since the author is a member of the list.

7. What is netiquette?

There are informal rules of the internet which are termed "netiquette" to help people use proper etiquette within this form of communication. For more on list netiquette, click here, then use the back button on your browser to return to this page.

8. Who is on the list?

That would be telling.

Because the list software requires an e-mail address but not a name, I may not have names of all subscribers on the list. We currently have over 190 subscribers.

9. How can I get a copy of the e-mail addresses on the list?

You can't. To communicate with the list, send messages to the posting address <compactmacs@reformed.net>.

10. What topics may be discussed?

Anything relating to 68000-based compact Macs. Compact Macs is an unmoderated closed list. Unmoderated means messages are sent to the list without prior knowledge of the list mom; closed means only subscribers may post. (The list was closed to prevent spam.)

Because the list is closed, you will only be able to post from a subscribed address.

11. What tone is expected in the discussion and who will facilitate this?

This has become a kind and helpful community. Since Mac users range from beginners to gurus, please be tolerant of "dumb" questions.

Please report any major breach of netiquette to the list mom at <listmom@reformed.net>.

12. Is there an accessible archive of messages sent to Compact Macs?

Yes, but not on the internet (and, thus, not searchable by spammers). See A Subscriber's Guide to Macjordomo for more details. The "help" command will explain how to search and retrieve digests from the archive.

13. I subscribed, but get no messages. What's up?

It is possible to successfully subscribe with an incorrect email address. I check all bounced messages to determine why they bounced. If the address is invalid, I delete it from the subscriber list. If the problem is temporary, like a full mailbox, I'll switch it to digest mode in hopes the mailbox will soon have space. If this also results in bounces, I'll keep the address on the list for a day or so, then delete it if bounces persist.

If you are subscribing from a free web email account, note that some of these services are very busy and messages may bounce. If this persists, it could lead to your name to be removed the list. I recommend you to use an ISP account for the list instead of a free email service.

If your subscription is bounced, I will attempt to contact your postmaster -- and cc you. Of course, since there's a problem with the email address, there may be no way I can contact you to tell you of the problem.

We take a hard line against unsolicited commercial email. To prevent spam, the list is closed and certain domains are blocked by the mail server and the list server.

14. I sent a message, but it came back. Why?

There are several possible reasons a posting can bounce.

• You may not have confirmed your subscription yet. Until you start receiving messages from the list, you can't post to it.
• Your return address may not match the address you subscribed from. The list server uses your return (reply to) address to confirm that you are on the list and allowed to post.
• You may have inadvertently sent a command to the list. Certain words such as help, sub, unsub, set, get, review, search, and info are viewed by the list server as administrative commands. If these words appear in the subject or first line of text, the list server will hijack your message and try to process it as a command.

15. What other Internet resources are available for users of 68000-based compact Macs?

Low End Mac is excellent, in my admittedly biased opinion as webmaster, especially the Compact Macs section. Other excellent resources include EveryMac and Apple's TIL, Manuals, and Specs. Please use these resources before asking your question on the list.

Owners of 68000-based Macs may also want to subscribe to Classic Macs <http://lowendmac.net/classicmacs.html>, another list dedicated to all pre-68040 Macs.

16. Do you have any policies about selling products or services on the list?

I've learned that some of the experts on any list gain their expertise professionally. For instance, I am the information systems manager for a 75 Mac network. For those who make a living selling equipment or services, we have the following guidelines.

1. List members may mention the availability of commercial services or products on the list, but no prices. (Individuals may list personal equipment with prices.)
2. All correspondence regarding services or products should be conducted privately, not on the list.
3. Neither the publisher nor the list mom makes any claim regarding services or products offered by members of the list.

17. What about the weekly email swap meet?

Every Monday the list is open to members listing their surplus Macintosh and Mac related hardware. It is recommended that sellers outside the U.S. specify their location. Please be sure to reply directly to the individual selling the item, not to the list.

Dan Knight, list mom <dknight@mail.iserv.net>

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