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Noise Removal
 By joyce notenboom - Posted on August 23, 2002 - 13:36:58   (#2796)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.1
Post it in the feature request at the site of xentronix.


Great!
 By ade - Posted on August 23, 2002 - 04:50:19   (#2793)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.1
I testet it and found it very stable.
It would be great if there would be great to have a noise removeval plugin like the Cooledit one!

Thanx
-A

eep
 By timezero - Posted on August 22, 2002 - 13:24:20   (#2787)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.1
/me is waiting for a version that uses all of his nice DDR ram

Virtual Memory
 By Frans van Nispen - Posted on August 22, 2002 - 07:10:58   (#2786)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.1
The virtual memory version will be available next month, providing the abillity to edit and load files up to 8Gb.


Yes !
 By Ram - Posted on August 22, 2002 - 05:50:30   (#2785)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.1
Great job... Mp3s load fine now... even though it takes a hell of a lot of memory and is slow.

Really great work. Nice work on the Bass boost effect too.

Keep up the good work.

THANKS !!!!!
 By cvincent - Posted on August 22, 2002 - 01:38:56   (#2784)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.1
The last beta 2.1 is very powerfull and you made the correction for RAM usage very fast, very very good work, and thanks a lot for a new killer-app :)))

thx :)


MP3's
 By Frans van Nispen - Posted on August 21, 2002 - 01:40:44   (#2771)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.0
MP3's load perfectly on my system. Even the ones that crash the app before.

Only thing is the peak-file (indexing) takes about 8% more memory and I cash some graphics for speed.

SO I think you having a memory problem. I am working on a virtual memory system now to be able to edit files up to 8Gb with little memory usage.

VST2 will be supported as native plug-in format, though DXi will never be supported on BeOS !


What happened?
 By Ram - Posted on August 19, 2002 - 08:44:39   (#2728)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.0
The last 2 betas are not able to load Mp3s :)

Is this a problem with SampleStudio or BeOS (the indexing stage crashes the app) ?

Anyway, I still am living with the older beta version which works. Though i don't edit mp3s much it would be really handy for clipping. And how about "Volume increase/decrease" in the next version? :)

Nice app, keep up the good work.

Sounds good!
 By meroveus - Posted on August 19, 2002 - 03:36:27   (#2727)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.0
Hello Franz, this looks promising.

I haven't yet tried the very latest beta, although I've used every other previous beta.

Apart from being able to edit huge files, there are some things I would like to see:

1. user has option to work with different resolutions inernally eg. 32-bit int, 32-bit float, 64-bit float etc.

2. support for VST and DXi plugins without having to recompile them for BeOS. Ideally, some wrapper functions could be developed. Imagine being able to use commercial noise-reduction plugins from SonicFoundry and Steinberg!
Steinberg seems to have a VST SDK for BeOS.

3. being able to navigate to most-used functions using the keyboard.
The mouse while good for beginners, is just too darn slow, when you are playing and recording more than one track simultaneously and creating effects in real-time.

If this keeps improving, I'll definitely buy it.
After having to fork out for Wavelab, and almost having to by SoundForge, the cost of this program will be small change in comparison!

Memory usage
 By Frans van Nispen - Posted on August 19, 2002 - 02:25:55   (#2726)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.0
HI, the indexing only takes up 7.8% of the file you loaded. The nasty thing is SampleStudio Baisc loads all in memory.

I have started the development of the more advanced version today, with Vitual Memory, so you can edit tracks up to 8Gb per channel (unpacked 32bits).

In a few weeks, there will be the first commercial beta available, and your memory problems will be over.


Lot of RAM ....
 By cvincent - Posted on August 19, 2002 - 01:49:04   (#2723)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 2.0
Hey, the last beta work more speed, the indexing take all memory (i have 360Mb and PIII 800 !!!) and that's very very slow than the last beta ;(((

I like this app, but not the last beta ;((

NO BUG!?
 By Jess - Posted on July 17, 2002 - 09:18:34   (#2242)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 1.5
"AWW CRAP!" - Krusty the Clown

Man I was hoping for bugs... mainly Spiders & Ants. I love those guys... but now you say no bugs! Dude I don't want to pay good money for a product that don't have a furry little pet!!! I mean who better to be second engineer in the studio then a nice big furry spider! & a powerfull Ant to carry around all the gear!!! you can't take away our right to BUG'S!!! ;)

No bug
 By Frans van Nispen - Posted on July 17, 2002 - 07:35:06   (#2241)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 1.5
This is not a bug of SampleStudio, but rather in your mp3 decoder. It seems not to be 100% compliant.

We will add our own importers in the future as there are more problems with the Be MediaKit regarding loading, and Be never released the API.

Frans van Nispen.

crashes after loading mp3 audio files
 By moshed - Posted on July 2, 2002 - 05:22:14   (#2072)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 1.5
after the file is loaded, samplestudio crashes in the destructor of a "mpeg-loader-class" (before indexing).

thanks for this app!
 By moshed - Posted on July 1, 2002 - 04:55:54   (#2049)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 1.5
great!
thanks!
:-))

Ram -- Mp3 loading problem
 By Ram - Posted on June 27, 2002 - 10:46:57   (#1976)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 1.5
Hmm.. is it only me?

The previous version of SampleStudio loaded large mp3s quite well, but not this version. It loads the mp3 fully into memory, then pops an alert saying "out of memory" (or something to that effect). Then after clicking OK, it shows an "Indexing" progress, immediately after which it crashes.

I have 128 MB RAM with 192 MB swap file. I don't think i need more since the previous version worked with mp3s even of size 5 mb while this one doesn't with mp3s of size around 2 MB.

Apart from this, is there a way to reduce the volume of the mp3 sample using SampleStudio? the latest has things like Reverb, room, etc. i couldn't find any thing about volume..

Very nice app so far. I'm using the previous version till the latest one works on my sys :) Nice app

Very GREAT app.....
 By cvincent - Posted on June 23, 2002 - 06:01:19   (#1939)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Beta 1.5
thanks for this application, i think it's a killer app that's all BeOS users wait !
Thanks, thanks !!!!!

Hum, at my job, i see Cool-Edit, and the plug-in structure is very powerfull, have you planned to made the same ?

Skinning
 By Frans van Nispen - Posted on June 9, 2002 - 08:15:30   (#1738)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
Hi, I read that many of you'd like the abbility of skinning / theming.

As of this, I will leave the graphics as bitmaps. If further features are required, please send me a mail.

Frans van Nispen.

oh right
 By rain - Posted on June 8, 2002 - 21:42:03   (#1735)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
I re-read your post :) sorry
but I'm sure that the bitmaps will be stored as resources, if that's the case, themeing will be possible, and even easier.

Jess
 By rain - Posted on June 8, 2002 - 21:37:56   (#1734)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
SampleStudio allready offers the ability of themeing, but no skinning. The graphics are all located in the ./Bitmaps folder and you can change them to whatever you want. Still no skins, but themes are enough to satisfy most users.

I know what your thinking
 By Jess - Posted on June 6, 2002 - 20:32:26   (#1716)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
"Not shi app wont be skinable"

It's supposed to be "No this app won't be skinable..."

No Skins...
 By Jess - Posted on June 6, 2002 - 20:27:18   (#1714)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
Not shi app wont be skinable but color control & a variation on look will be availible. The graphics will be embedded in the application when it is done so external graphic i.e. skins will not be an option.
- Jess

Great stuff, quality app needed by BeOS
 By verranm - Posted on June 6, 2002 - 17:25:47   (#1713)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
Nice realtime effect - hope to see some sort of plugin architecture (eg VST) to make sure its expandable

Also, do I sense this app is going to be skinnable :)

Excellent...
 By delpy - Posted on June 6, 2002 - 10:22:45   (#1708)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
Truly great work Frans. Can't wait for the full version with more filterage.

some fresh audio app :)
 By boola - Posted on June 4, 2002 - 17:28:28   (#1682)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
i know bambam, and it's a nice sample editor, but sadly it hasn't been updated since june 99.
i'm happy to see that new apps are still coming since be inc failure and i want to encourage Frans to continue this new project.

keep going Frans :)


Yes, direct mode please
 By Pete - Posted on June 3, 2002 - 05:31:43   (#1670)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
Yup marcone, this is what I thought too when trying SampleStudio. Something like a "Direct File edit mode" (so that the file is not loaded into RAM) is badly needed. I sometimes have wav-files up to 4hours, try to push that in your Ram ;-)

no sample editor?
 By marcone - Posted on June 2, 2002 - 19:18:57   (#1666)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
"It was a shame to not have a good sample editor on BeOS"

"BamBam" has existed for years now, and I think it pretty much does everything that SampleStudio does at this point. It even does the same things badly: both BamBam and SampleStudio load the entire sample into memory.

Rain...
 By Jess - Posted on June 1, 2002 - 16:15:32   (#1651)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
Hey rain I know what your saying. My problem is that to make it consistant with the System colors means it will only have bright options. We cannot change our font colors & our menu colors are extreemly limited & can't go any where near what I like & want. While if you use the menu panel from the OBOS release you CAN make it as dark as you want since the colors are now unlocked it becomes a usless feature once you realize - "Hey! I can't change my fonts color!" So you can make your menus nice & dark but then lose font. Also the "highlight" color of apps & menus for that 3d look are hard coded & if you make your menu black it looks dumb to be so dark but with such a super bright shine on the light side. the highlight & shadow of the menus needs to be user definable or work on a ratio from the main colors. But this spews into more a hope & pray OBOS will fix & add this stuff disscussion then anything to do with Sample Studio.

Very Promising...
 By macsnafu - Posted on June 1, 2002 - 15:33:52   (#1650)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
It looks great, but it's not quite there yet. It's stumbling over large file playback, especially compressed formats like mp3, but I'm mainly concerned about editing songs in .wav file format. I've got a lot of records and tapes I'd like to clean up and convert, so I'm especially interested in noise reduction features.
Still, it seems like it's already quite capable of handling smaller files, like samples and effects.

colors
 By rain - Posted on June 1, 2002 - 15:32:39   (#1649)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
Jess, I agree with you. I don't think that colors should be hardcoded, it should be relative to whatever colors the rest of the system has. I prefer bright colors for a desktop system, but that's me, I can't expect everyone else to have that opinion. Those who likes it dark should be able to have it dark, and it should be consistant over the whole system.

The only problem with this from a developer/UI designers point of view would be the graphics used in the UI. They would either have to work with both light and dark backgrounds or you could have two sets of graphics. An alternative could be to use a palette of say 16 colors which are user defined to draw all the graphics, and perhaps use vectorgraphics instead of bitmaps, which would also be better for a scalable GUI, which is something I have a personal desire for :)

Great app!
 By Bardo Brunink - Posted on June 1, 2002 - 13:34:24   (#1647)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
I personally have not yet really been into sounds and sampling, but this is a great program! Eventhough called 'beta' I have not found anything wrong with it. Thanks!

Oh no!
 By Jess - Posted on June 1, 2002 - 12:42:41   (#1645)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
I can totaly agree about havine the Node useage. My sound card does not have the option to record it's out put so recording things done on other apps in Be requires a crappy little eigth of an inch mini stereo jack. Thats sucks! but my OH NO is about UI. I had made the skin SUPER dark as soon as I got it. I have to say I have totaly had it with brightness. If this app was to not have a changeable color scheme & or A way to select at least one dark version of the "skin" it will be using in the end I will not use this application. Please don't reply about hardware -I have a good monitor & video card. Also it has nothing with "Look at me! I'm dark mysterious & spooky! Give me Dark UI!" It bothers me when these are the common responses from people. There are medical reasons why a person, not unlike myself would want & need a dark background & a lighter text. I think the ability to change color in an application is a must. Sadly most devs don't seem to think so. What if your application is being used by a color blind person & they can't see important data? While this can spin off into skins which normally turns into a nightmare I'm talking about some simple control over your colors. This stuck with white background & black text crap just makes me say we have such a great OS so whats with this MacOS color deal? Bright is the LAST thing I want to be starting at all day. If I want bright I'll go stare at the sun. Please don't hard code the colors or UI backgrounds or if you do allow for at least a few color schemes.
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

nodes and happiness
 By rain - Posted on June 1, 2002 - 11:59:15   (#1644)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
"As we are on beos here, it would be logic to be able to record from any sound-producer node and not only from the default
soundcard audio-in node."

Yes, that would make sense, and that's what I've done in the app I'm developing(multi channel studio app).

Things are looking great Frans. I'd prefer if the GUI used the BeOS colors by default though, it's a bit too dark :) Other than that, it's solid and fast. I've experienced a few crashes, I'll file bugreports on them after further investigations.

Cool! Glad to see this is here! Will there be a PPC version?
 By Jace - Posted on June 1, 2002 - 10:39:03   (#1642)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
I have yet to test it, but since I have been getting into PPC BeOS lately, I was wondering if a PPC version will be available.

This is sooo cool !!! At last a decent sample editor :)
 By boola - Posted on June 1, 2002 - 07:46:22   (#1639)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
It was a shame to not have a good sample editor on BeOS. You are filling an enormous gap.
It is a great idea to make it look and feel like Cooledit because me and a lot of people i know are using Cooledit as their main audio recorder and editor.
SampleStudio beta 1 seems to be very promising even if it doesn't have recording, tons of effects and multitrack yet.
I was amazed by the realtime effect preview, the overall responsiveness and the sharp and beossified cooledit ui :) , and couldn't manage to crash it yet :)

Just a suggestion about recording:
As we are on beos here, it would be logic to be able to record from any sound-producer node and not only from the default soundcard audio-in node. It could allow to run multiples instances of SampleStudio that records from different sound sources (hardware or software). And preparing for the upcoming(i hope you'll do it) multitrack recording ..
What are you planning?

Great job :), Really promising
Thanks...




Very Great application for THE Media-OS
 By cvincent - Posted on June 1, 2002 - 04:30:09   (#1638)
 Current version when comment was posted: 1.0 Basic Beta
thanks, it's design as CoolEdit and i really like it,
i think it can be used by studio radio etc...
very great !!!

 
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